Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:05] Speaker B: Welcome to ChatGPT Curious, a podcast for people who are, well, curious about ChatGPT. I'm, um, your host, Dr. Shantae Cofield, also known as the Maestro, and I created this show to explore what ChatGPT actually is. Really, though, are the files in the computer, how to use it, and what it might mean for how we think, work, create, and move through life. Whether you're skeptical, intrigued, or already experimenting, you're in the right place. All that I ask is that you stay curious. All right, let's get into it.
Hello, hello, hello, my curious people, and welcome to episode eight. That's my favorite number of ChatGPT Curious. I am your grateful host, the Maestro, and today we are talking about getting Chat GPT to do what you want. So, first off, thank you for the dms. Y' all are sliding in, and I'm like, this is dope. I got some dms. That last episode, episode seven, was helpful and a bit more digestible. And I'm gonna tell you to clap for yourself, because part of that, Part of that it being more digestible, in my humble opinion, is because I believe you are getting smarter. You've been hearing the words over and over again, and you are learning.
Admittedly, last episode was less dense, but I' ma still give you all props and clap for you. Uh, I am also going to clap for you that you made it through the more dense episodes, like episode one. I know that was the most dense, and I started off with that, and I was like, I don't care. Like, this is the foundation.
Uh, uh, so go re. Listen if you need. If you skipped it, maybe go back. This stuff is not basic bitch material. Like, that is just period, right? Uh, it's not basic bitch material. It does take some thinking and some time and some effort, and so if you haven't made it through it yet, that's okay. I'm, um, a clap for you for trying. If you have made it through, I'm a double clap for you. All right, so again, go re. Listen. Go reread the Companion, the Curious Companion, or perhaps read it for the first time or reach out if you have questions. I do love hearing from you. I will happily answer your specific questions. Actually, today's episode, uh, is inspired by Amy. Thank you for listening. Amy is, like, number one fan, just super grateful for her.
Rachel, um, had reached out. Just thank you. I want to hear from you, and if you have questions, I'm happy to answer them. Raquel had reached out. Y' all are awesome. So if you got Questions or you just want to say hi. Also amazing. But if you got questions, I want to answer them, I'm happy to answer them. And then they will inspire an episode because there's a very good, very, very good chance that if you have that question, someone else does. So I am happy to answer those questions. I'm happy to do, you know, deeper episodes? And I hear, I know as I'm saying that you're probably like, Jesus Christ, do not do a deeper episode. On parameters like, I know, um, but I am happy to do, you know, repeat episodes or explain things more. If you have questions, I want to answer them right. I want my people educated, I want my people informed, and I want my people understanding what the is going on. So moving on. And speaking of clapping, I' ma ask for a clap from y'. All if you like what I'm doing. If you're picking up what I'm putting down, if it's helping you do me a solid, hook me up with an Apple rating, preferably five stars, but as always, keep it real. If you listen on Spotify, I have no idea what the fuck to tell you. Like, uh, there's no ratings thing over there. Maybe for a day, for a second. Just go over to Apple real quick. Smash the stars. Or don't, don't do it. It's up to you. Honestly, I want this to be free will here. Um, I guess I should probably tell you how to leave a rating. All you gotta do is go to the main page for the episode, for the podcast, scroll all the way down past all. So the main, like episodes page that's on ah, Apple, and you scroll all the way down past the episodes and then you'll see, you'll see some empty stars. Just smash them if you want to leave a review as well.
Awesome. I think I have, uh, I don't know, I don't counted the actual reviews. We've got eight ratings right now and a good number, maybe just as many reviews. And that's awesome. So if you want to leave a review as well, I understand that takes time. So if you don't want to do that, that's fine too. But if you could leave a rating, smash some stars, that would be amazing. Okay, let's hop into the main topic for today's episode, which is getting chat GPT almost, um, a chap. It's not chap. Getting chat GPT to do what you want. So the official term that you'll hear when it comes to giving chat GPT commands is prompting. Perhaps you've already heard of that word. That's what they're talking about, right? Prompting is the way you ask ChatGPT for something. A prompt, therefore, is simply the words you type into the box.
[00:04:41] Speaker A: Right?
[00:04:41] Speaker B: Um, very, very simple explanation and understanding here.
When Chat GPT launched, and even now, like in the niche Reddit communities, folks be going crazy over prompting and how to write the perfect prompt. Y' all is not that serious.
[00:05:01] Speaker A: All right?
[00:05:01] Speaker B: It is not that serious. Real talk.
I think the excitement that they all have is, in my opinion, 100. Because tech bros, quote, unquote, discovered, like Christopher Columbus, they discovered communication.
[00:05:16] Speaker A: Right?
[00:05:17] Speaker B: That's it. Tech bros are like, holy.
If I am specific and clear and I don't assume things, I will get a way better response. No, no.
All right. Prompting is simply communicating with the model. To that end, the clearer that you are, typically, the better it is for all parties involved. You've been in a relationship, especially with a woman, you know this, you know this.
So these models, and I'm saying these models because I'm talking about, like, Claude and anything else that's out there, it's not, this is not unique, uh, to chatgpt.
[00:05:52] Speaker A: Right?
[00:05:52] Speaker B: These models, they have all also continued to improve in their abilities.
And this, these improvements makes the prompt obsession far less necessary. Like, when ChatGPT first came out, you had to, like, really be specific. Specific. And like, because it didn't, it wasn't that good.
It's really good now. Which means you don't have to be obsessed with it. Yes. Be clear.
But you don't have to be obsessed. Okay?
The fact that prompting is communication, and we pair that with the improved abilities. Abilities of the model.
[00:06:29] Speaker A: Right?
[00:06:29] Speaker B: Those two things are, like, two of the main reasons why I've never made a resource or I've. I've yet to make a resource and I probably will never make a resource. That's like the five best prompts for. For X or like, the best way to prompt for Y output. Like, no, because it's just communication.
[00:06:45] Speaker A: Right?
[00:06:45] Speaker B: And these models are pretty good.
Y' all already know I'm the teacher. People how to fish. Not teach a person. Teach a people. Teacher People how to fish. I'm that kind of teacher. So here we are circling back to the title of the episode.
[00:07:01] Speaker A: Right?
[00:07:01] Speaker B: Uh, the way to get ChatGPT to do what you want.
The way that you do that is to know exactly what you want it to do and then ask for that.
Uh, the best thing that you can do, folks, before you're going to prompt it is to organize your thoughts and identify your outcome.
I am going to. I sat down with this though. I'm going to help you out because I was going to be helpful.
That sounds so redundant. I'm going to help you out because I realized it'd be helpful. No, uh, but I, I'm going to walk you through how my brain works and I'm going to present what I believe this is my own thoughts believe to be the most important items to get clear about so that you can generate the, you know, quote unquote best prompt before we happen to the. The steps. Something super important to note, I think it's super important to note is that I have never had CHAT GPT just make something for me from scratch, right? So first off with that I have the paid version and I talked about this in episode one, the difference between the paid version and the free version, okay, Mainly the paid version, you get, it remembers you.
Uh, you can have projects and you don't get throttled, right? Like, it doesn't tell you you've reached your quota for, you know, usage for the day. That's like the main differences. And you get access to the better models, but they give everyone access to GPT5, including the free users. But at this point I use it so much it makes sense for me to pay the $20. But because I have the paid version and I use things like projects, right? Uh, and at a foundational level, like I have used it a ton.
ChatGPT has a pretty good familiarity of me and how I write and how I think and how I go about doing things, right? And I am saying this in the context of I have never just had chatgpt like make something from scratch. So even if I was to give it the worst prompt, it still has a rough understanding of me. Of note, the rumored, and I'm really hoping for this, the rumored GPT6 update is supposedly memory. And that is something I can get behind. Like, yes, give me better memory. Remember who the I am, everything I said, remember when I said it. Let's. Because sometimes it'll just make up. It remembers you, but also it'd be making up. Uh, so hopefully that that comes to fruition. But in the context of me saying that I have never just had ChatGPT make something with like no context. Like one, it knows me.
Two, if I'm asking it to quote, unquote, create something, it is typically more like summarizing something based on a copy that I've already, you know, written and I've pasted in exactly Example like when I have it make the curious companion from the podcast outlines. Like, it's not just like making it out of thin air or so similarly, it's synthesizing something using a significant amount of resources that I've already created and uploaded. So another example is that I have had it make call outlines. So like calls for my coaching calls, um, my program, for my programs. I've had it made outlines for the calls, but it's based on a long ass PowerPoint of everything I want to teach that I've already uploaded and a weekly syllabus that I've already uploaded and the copy from sales page so it understands what the fuck I'm doing. I'm not just like, hey, just make this thing up, right? I've given it all of this context and it's largely just generating it from that, right? This is important to note because I stay saying the better the input, the better the output. So when it comes to the things like maintaining your voice and your style and your flavor and knowing like about you, right? Which is to me super important, right? And that's the thing that I'm most likely to correct when I edit is I'm like, this just doesn't really sound like to me I got to kind of change this when it comes to maintaining that, right? Uh, your voice and your style, the more you give it to build from and work from, that is you, the more like you the output will sound, right? Better input, better output.
My guess is that if you're listening to this episode, you listen to this podcast in general, you are likely using chat GPT for something in the content generation realm, right? So yes, you can ask it for basic questions, but like if you're thinking about having it do something for you, then it's usually like, you know, copy for something, website, sales page, an email copy. You're trying to make an outline or something, making presentation, maybe you're making like social media content. Something in that, in that realm, like content generation. I talked about that in Episode, what was it? Six. I believe that everything is content.
Uh, but four basic questions. Like I was saying, just ask it. The fucking question doesn't matter, just ask it. But when you want it to, act as your assistant, heavy emphasis here on the word assistant, because that's the best way to use it.
This is what the following is, what I suggest you get clear on and then you can consider adding it to your prompt. Okay, I'm going to go through seven things that I suggest you get clear on. When you're trying to have it act as an assistant and create something for you. Okay. Number one, your brag, your wow, your background, familiarity with the topic or your level of expertise. So are you professional with this? I will even do this with just general questions sometimes. So if I'm talking to it about, um, sometimes exercise selection for working out, I will let it know like, I am a physical therapist. I've been a physical therapist for a billion years. I'm, um, an advanced age lifter. I'm like very familiar with this thing so that it can use that tone with me. Okay, so as a start, these are things that I just suggest you just write out and then you can determine if it's important to add to the prompt. But number one is going to be your background, slash familiarity with the topic or level of expertise.
Number two, all relevant information about the audience. Are they women in M perimenopause? I like fucking hate that. That's the example I just used. But that's like literally all I see in my timeline right now. So, like that's what came out. Is it women over 50? Is it advanced age lifters? Is it experienced downhill mountain bikers? I don't know. Who is the audience? Who are you making this thing for?
[00:12:51] Speaker A: Right.
[00:12:52] Speaker B: Is it for a group of women that you've never ever met before? It's going to be your first time meeting them and you're doing a presentation for them and it's at the local Y.
I don't know. Write it all out. Write all of the relevant information about the odds. Write it out.
[00:13:07] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:13:07] Speaker B: M. Number three. This is probably one of the most important things. The main takeaway and or objective for what is being creative. Wow. For what is being created. Why would I say that Creative? The main takeaway and or objective for what is being created, is it that you want them to understand this certain thing, you want them to feel a certain way?
Uh, is it, you know, so from, as opposed to this episode, if I was going to have ChatGPT try to, you know, create this outline from which I could never have it to, but if I was going to try, I'm going to go into it being like. The thing that I want people to take away is that they need to get clear on what they want. That is the takeaway. If you want a better output, you want ChatGPT to do what you want it to do, you need to get clear on what it is that you want it to do.
[00:13:57] Speaker A: Right?
[00:13:58] Speaker B: That is the main takeaway. You have to know this in order to be able to prompt it. Okay, so again, for all of these, uh, these clarity items, I want you to just like type it out, write it out somewhere, list it, and then we can decide how much of this you want to put into the prompt. But for number three, it's the main takeaway and or objective for what is being created. Of note, how you want people to feel is also. I put that in that category.
[00:14:23] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:14:24] Speaker B: Um, number four, supporting information and, or concepts that you want included.
So, you know, again, for this episode, if I'm like, the main takeaway is that I want people to get clear on what it is that they actually want as the output, then the supporting concepts that I could be throwing in there are, you know, other, um, ways to use ChatGPT to expedite the process. So things like projects, um, the paid versus the free tiers, um, things like that, these are bonus, not bonus. These are extra concepts that will support the main point. List all those things out.
Um, number five, specific description of the desired output. What is it that you want this thing making? Is it an outline? Is it a presentation? Is it a website copy? Is it a paragraph? Is it a sentence? Is it a bulleted list?
[00:15:17] Speaker A: Right.
[00:15:17] Speaker B: And in this case, this includes the tone and the style. Do you want it to be funny? Do you want it to sound like you? If, if you have a lot of, um, things that you've written before, then you can be like, yeah, make it sound like me. If it knows you. Do you want it to be very serious? Do you want it to be more informational? Do you want it to be very, you know, lighthearted? You want it to be very br.
Get specific with the desired output, as specific as possible if it's helping you. The presentation be like. The presentation is going to be an hour long.
I, uh, want you to make it into a bulleted list. Tell me the times for each, you know, section that you make.
Get as specific as you, you can. I'm thinking about sometimes I'll have it write outline thing or have it outline things for me. And I like when it inserts a line between each of the ideas as opposed to just having like bullets. And I'm like, put it. Insert the line break. I want to see that not just, not just the line break, but the actual like line, physical line there. Get as specific as you want. Right? M. Okay, so number five, specific description of the desired output, including tone and style. Number six, specific description of how you want chat GPT to interact with you.
So in this case you could tell it like, don't Ask me anything, just do this. You could ask it to ask you things. Um, you could say that you don't want to know, like the process that's. And anything.
There's, uh, another one that's in there.
Sometimes it will ask you multiple questions at a time. And you could say, hi, I just want you to ask me one question at a time.
[00:16:40] Speaker A: Right?
[00:16:41] Speaker B: So I know that as I'm giving you these, these clarity items, I'm giving you seven of them, but you can pick and choose depending on what the task is.
So, you know, if this is a shorter, smaller thing that you're doing with ChatGPT, maybe just to pick one of these and you're like, hey, this is something that will help me is that I. When I'm asking, I'm in thought mode with ChatGPT and we're just riffing and I'm trying to, like, get some ideas around something.
Maybe I don't want it to fire off a million questions at me because it will do that to me. And I'm like, yo, I want one question at a time. And that is me specifying how I want it to interact with me. Okay, and then clarity. Item number seven would be identifying and then uploading any relevant or supporting documentation and reference. And then you will reference it in the prompt prompt moving forward. So this could be, like I said earlier, I. You could upload a PowerPoint presentation. It can read the slides. You can upload an outline that you have. You can upload, um, you know, the copy from a sales page. You can upload anything you want, right?
You can upload it as part of the prompt, right? So, like in that little prompt box, you can just drag it into there. Or if you're making an actual project, which is. I go into detail about projects in Episode six, so go back and check that out. But, um, if you're doing this part of a project, then you can upload it to the actual project.
Part B of this, in terms of uploading supporting documentation, would be, you do not need to upload a zillion files. Right where you're looking for quality over quantity, right? Pick. Great. Instead of picking a lot, don't you pick. I'll just upload all of them and it'll figure it out. Like, now pick the best. The thing you're going to reference. If you're like, hey, I'm referencing this for style or anything like that, and then upload that.
So let me go through those seven again, and then we'll go into bonus strategies. So the Seven clarity items. Number one, your background, familiarity with the topic or level of expertise. Number two, all relevant information about the audience. Number three, the main takeaway and or objective for what is being created. Number four, supporting information and or concepts that you want included. Number five, specific description of the desired output. This includes tone and style.
Number six, specific description of how you want Chat GPT to interact with you. And then number seven, upload any relevant or supporting documentation and reference it in the prompt. So you let it know like, hey, I'm referencing this. You know, look at the style from the thing that I uploaded.
Uh, when you're making the output, right? So you have to reference it and let it know.
Bonus strategies. Two bonus strategies. Number one, ask Chat GPT to interview you. So this can be really helpful, just in general, it could be fun, but it can be really helpful to clarify what you want.
And it can be really helpful as a way to put words to a process that maybe you don't, you don't like, have fully understood yet. So if you want to clarify what you want, maybe you're like, I'm trying to make this thing, but I don't even like know what I want from the output. Then you could say, I'm creating X, I'm creating a presentation. Can you please ask me questions one at a time to help me clarify what I want?
Uh, this wild, like it will do this. It's amazing. If you're looking to put words to a process that you have that you may not fully understand, this happens to me quite a bit where like, I'm just like, I just do it. I only know. And if I sit here, I can reverse engineer things. But when I was creating the um, the Press publish, I was creating a document for Press publish and I was like, I don't really know how I come up with the taglines for things. I just like come up with it. I just think about this. And so I couldn't like really articulate it. So I had it interview me. And then something you could say is, can you please interview me again, one question at a time to help me put words to a process I use but don't fully understand yet. And it'll ask you questions, you get a little more input, it'll give you, it will give you those, those questions. And it's amazing to me.
All right, this second bonus strategy, right, the first bonus strategy was Ask ChatGPT Chat GPT to interview. The second bonus strategy is ask it for anything you may have missed, right? And this is something that can Be. Can be done after you've input all your stuff. And it's just like, is there anything. And this is, um, I'm combine two. You can ask it for anything you have missed and then say if you don't think there's anything, then just say, I haven't missed anything, anything. Because I don't want it to just make up.
[00:20:55] Speaker A: Right.
[00:20:55] Speaker B: So, yes, suffice to say that would be point, uh, number six, which is describing how you want it to interact with you.
The takeaway with this, hopefully from these bonus strategies, is when in doubt, ask Chat GPT to help you.
I just ask it to help you out.
The last point here before we go into kind of, um, the next. The next topic here is you don't need to. This is like, it's a personal pet peeve. You don't need to say, pretend your ex, like, pretend you're a lawyer and now interview me like you can. But that's largely just helpful for beginners who don't know how to describe the response they want. But it's fully unnecessary if you already know how to articulate your request because you said, like, this is what I want you to do. This the kind of questions I want you to ask. This is the thing I want you to make. Whatever. And that's why we went through those seven clarity items. If you don't have clarity around it, then, yeah, you could be like, pretend that you're this thing. Um, but I don't know.
[00:21:50] Speaker A: For.
[00:21:50] Speaker B: For whatever reason that, like, kind of like grinds my. It kind of. I don't know. It's a. I found it annoying. So if you want to include it in your prompt, go ahead. If you don't, you don't need to just make sure that you have gone through your clarity items and you know the response. You know how to articulate your request because you know what you want. All right, so action items.
My suggestion, like I said before, is to write out all of the clarity items from above and then literally paste it into Chat GPT and see what you get.
[00:22:17] Speaker A: Right.
[00:22:17] Speaker B: Chat GPT really is, you know, a, you know, learn from doing type of thing. But my goal in this episode and in these cloud items is to cut down on the back and forth that you have with ChatGPT. Yes. From the environmental perspective, but honestly, more so is that in my experience, the more back and forth you have, the worse things get. You're like, no, but change that. But change that. Like, because it doesn't give you the exact same thing again. Right. And we know why folks, because it's a probabilistic model. It's not deterministic. Probabilistic, meaning that the next time it outputs this thing, unless you say like I want the exact same thing, just like, just add on this one part. It kind of messes up, messes around, changes the words around a little bit and you're like, oh, that's uh, not the exact. I wanted the thing from before. So it's so much easier if you get a great response from the jump and if we can minimize the back and forth.
[00:23:06] Speaker A: Right?
[00:23:07] Speaker B: If you find yourself there with the back and forth, just start a new conversation. I'm sure you've all had this, namely with like the. If you use it for generating images that it's just like worse and then it gets worse, and then it gets worse.
Just start a new conversation but take into account the outputs you are receiving and then you can change your prompt instructions accordingly so that we start off with a better, you know, initial output.
Additionally, like a, ah, human. When you're coaching a human and asking for things from a human, focus on what you want it to do, not what you don't want it to do, right? You could say and never use em M dashes. I say that I hate M M dashes but that gonna do what it wants. So try to focus on the other things. And you can, yes, you can put in the thing like never do this, never do this. But like for what it's worth, that doesn't necessarily produce, it doesn't always adhere to that rule. That's what I want to say. Um, so again, circling back to the title, you're getting Chat GPT to do what you want at the technical level.
Another thing we have is reverse prompting. Uh, which is the technique, like I said before, that I described in depth in episode six the TLDR too long, didn't read of.
Uh, what reverse prompting is is that you give it the. You give ChatGPT the input and the finalized output and then you ask for it to generate a prompt that would create that same output from that input, right? So you're just reversing it. But you have to create both things. You have to create the input, you have to create the finalized product output, thing, whatever it is, outline, essay, copy, whatever it is, and then say, hey, how do I go from this to this? Give me the prompt that if I input this, you will give me that output. Um, but if we zoom out, because you all know it's my favorite to the 30,000 foot level when it comes to getting Chat GPT to do what you want, this is where we start to see its limitations.
[00:24:58] Speaker A: Right?
[00:24:59] Speaker B: ChatGPT is, uh, you know, a. It's not a generalized AI. Like, you can't just. Like I had someone ask me a question about this and no, I can't do video editing. Like, it's specific to certain tasks, right?
But goal, the bad goal for you is that you get clarity with those seven clarity items, right? You get all, all written out, those seven clarity items.
And this ensures that you are not the limitation. Let ChatGPT be the limitation, not you.
[00:25:32] Speaker A: Right?
[00:25:34] Speaker B: Like we talked about in the last episode, though, in episode seven, AI as it currently stands is not what the movies promised us. Not yet. It is dope, but it is definitely not there yet. You can't just be like, okay, make this thing like, does it, like, it's not this, like, super self aware, all knowing, all learning thing. I, I said earlier that prompting is communication. And one of the things I've seen is that people want to be able to engage in what. James Olivia Chu Hillman, if you listen to my, My story on the Mic podcast, if you're Mike is. And you know that I'm. Here's the crossover. Here it is.
When it comes to using ChatGPT, I see that people want to be able to engage in what. James Olivia Um, they are inquisitive, underscore human on Instagram. I'll link all that stuff, um, on what they call relational, right? Folks want Chat GPT to be a mind reader, right? We want software that understands us without us having to ask. Software that doesn't just respond, it anticipates. We want maximum alignment with minimal input. We are not there, folks. We are not there yet, folks. And I'm not sure that even that we even really want to get there, but I will very much do another episode about this because I think it warrants a full episode. Um, and why folks can feel so close to their chat GPT, especially GPT4. That got a lot of people, right? Uh, that got a lot of people. But for now, please remember the nerding out that we've done in earlier episodes and recall that AI is software that guesses. And ChatGPT, which is a type of AI, is math, not magic.
The best way to get Chat GPT to do what you want is to get clear and specific about what you want. All right? Okay. Before we wrap it up, you'll know it's the last part of the episode, how I Use Chat GPT recently so if you don't know each episode I include a section where I briefly discuss how I use Chat GPT that day that week. So I don't have a specific single task that I'll talk about this week. It's more of a commentary on model usage. So despite me saying that most folks probably wouldn't notice a difference between the models right when they came out with GPT5, um, I have noticed a difference and, but I'm going to say, and I say this in the least annoying way, I'm not most people. I use this shit a ton. Um, but I have noticed a difference and I have been actually changing between the models for anything creative. And I've been using 4oH model 4o for that.
So the default model is GPT5. If you go to the top of the screen, you can choose what model you're using and you scroll down. Under legacy models, it has the older models and that's where I select 4O.
I'm um, saying this and this experience based on specific tasks that I was doing before the change to GPT5, which is namely creating the Curious Companion.
Um, you know, there are lots of options in terms of what model to use.
I just use GPT5 for everyday stuff. I'm just like, okay, I'm going to get used to it just fine. But when I am making my Curious Companion, I have actually been changing the model and going to 4.0, um, I just like what it gives me better. Gives as the output better and I can compare it directly. I can put the prompt and put the input into uh, chap GPT5 and then it gives me an output and then I just change the model and I do it again and it gives me a different output and I like how it reads better with 4o. Um, I still have to edit them both, um, you know, irrespective of which model I use. But GPT5 really just feels a lot more like. It's like very much a list and it's using the same prompt, right? I have instructions that I work off of a project. It has the instructions, it knows what exactly what I want and it's not giving me what I want, but if I change the model, it does. So, um, for what it's worth, that's how I've been using it. This is not to say that you need to be messing around with the different models or changing them, just sharing how I have been using ChatGPT recently. Alrighty. That friends is all for today. Hopefully you found this episode helpful. If you did consider leaving a rating or review, I told you how to do that. So thank you in advance. Do not forget I also have a companion newsletter that drops every Thursday that is basically the podcast episode in text format. So that's what I was just going on about in terms of using 40 versus 5. Uh, so if you prefer to read or you just want a written record of things, join the newsletter. You can head to chat GPT curious.com forward/newsletter or you can check out the link in the show notes.
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