Ep. 24: Is It Worth It to Pay for ChatGPT?

[00:00:00] Foreign. [00:00:05] Welcome to ChatGPT Curious, a podcast for people who are, well, curious about ChatGPT. I'm, um, your host, Dr. Shantae Cofield, also known as the Maestro, and I created this show to explore what ChatGPT actually is really, though, are the files in the computer, how to use it, and what it might mean for how we think, work, create, and move through life. Whether you're skeptical, intrigued, or already experimenting, you're in the right place. All that I ask is that you stay curious. All right, let's get into it. [00:00:38] Hello, hello, hello, my curious people, and welcome to episode 24 of Chat GPT Curious. I am your grateful host, the Maestro, and today we are talking about whether or not it is quote, unquote, worth it to pay for ChatGPT. So before we hop in, hope you had a great holiday. Last week was. When is this episode coming out? This episode comes out. I don't even know. Um, but I think this will come out the week after Christmas and Hanukkah time. [00:01:07] So hope you had a great holiday, whatever you celebrate, or a great week if you don't celebrate. And, uh, now you're listening to this, and it'll be. If you're listening, when it drops, it'll be that in between time. So I hope you are enjoying the in between, actually. What am I saying? This should come out on New Year's Day. [00:01:25] This is what happens when you record things in the past, what they go on in the future. I got the two podcasts. One of them comes in on Monday, the other one comes on Thursday. My dates go a little bit messed up. This should come out on, uh, New Year's, so I should say happy New Year and Happy Birthday to me. Look at me for getting. I don't know, I don't have a calendar in front of me, and so I'm all mixed up. But I, uh, hope what. The reason I want to say all that was just like, I hope you had a great time. Hope you're having a great time right now. Hope you had a great time. [00:01:52] It's a new year. I hope nothing but good things for you. So this episode, talking about whether or not it's quote, unquote, worth it to pay for ChatGPT. And this is a topic that I've kind of avoided making a specific episode about for quite some time now, mainly because I ain't no big AI shill. Like, we know that some of the worst people are leading these companies, especially Sam Altman. Dude is weird. A weird guy. And, no, I do not for one second think that he has humanity's best interest at heart. [00:02:25] So I get it, I get it. People like, I don't want to pay, Sam. I get it. I think that. [00:02:31] And I'm like, you know, use a different model. By all means, use a different model. [00:02:35] Uh, I think for many folks, when they think about this topic of paying for an AI model, it starts to be. It can start to be an internal ethical debate, which I get right. Again, Sam, is the worst. The environmental concerns, which I'm not gonna lie, I don't have those environmental concerns. [00:02:54] Um, I. I did a deep dive on this, and that is part of the reason I don't have them. But the other part is that it is. Our usage is not what's causing the problem. [00:03:04] Uh, it's not. [00:03:06] It is these companies making these massive. And. And for what it's worth, it's going to be energy, not water, that is the biggest issue. These companies making these, you know, trying to build these massive data centers. Which have always existed, right? Data centers have always existed. Data centers are actually very, um, efficient ways of. Of doing this, of doing technology. I'll say, like, that it's that these are so big for no reason, and they're putting them in certain areas. And we know that, you know, it comes down to money. And people. These politicians in these areas don't know. [00:03:38] And so they believe, like, yeah, we're gonna make jobs, we're gonna get money, and then they just do it. And, like, then their area gets. And it's like, that's not the politician. [00:03:46] And yes, one of the reasons. And I said this when I first started this podcast, one of the reasons I start to podcast is to educate people. I want informed consumers. I don't want, you know, paying consumers. They're not paying me. I want people to be informed so that if it does come up where it's like, hey, we're gonna vote to put a data center in your area, be like, no, and here's why. Like, you have to be educated on the topic. And yes, this does lead into and require participatory democracy, which is, like, annoying. I get it. You're like, I don't want to vote on this. I don't have to deal with this. I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it, I get it. But I also do think that is quite possibly the most remarkable technology of our lifetime. [00:04:29] And I'm not willing to miss out on that. I understand the downsides. And one of the quotes that always comes to mind Is James Baldwin, quote, that the master's tools will never dismantle the man, the master's house. [00:04:43] And I believe that. But I also believe that the tools will let you in and then you can dismantle it from the inside out. Like, I did a whole episode on will chatgpt get open AI'd. Excuse me, that doesn't make any sense. Will Chat GPT get old, navied and basically undercut by a cheaper model? [00:04:58] You don't know about that unless you understand what's going on. If you just take things at face value and learn things, then you don't understand, like, hey, maybe I could use a different model. Like, what are my actual needs? Could I run a, uh, could I run a local model and significantly decrease a lot of things, like, what do I have access to? You don't know these things. If we just are like, nope, it's bad. [00:05:19] So I understand the internal debate and, uh, the internal ethical debate, and I, and I appreciate it, but I'm also feeling. I also feel like it's. [00:05:31] I don't want to say misplaced, but it feels weird to me when I don't think people necessarily have that same smoke for other areas in life that are doing far more damage. [00:05:48] Um, all right, like, and again, when I did that episode about the environment, I was like, I don't want this to be a what about ism episode, but that is a big concern to me. It's just like, hey, you know, much water is being used by agriculture. Like, what's, what's used by data centers is like a fraction of that. And yes, we have to eat. But I, uh, think that also people don't realize how incredible this technology can be. So it's not really so much if you can't beat them, join them. [00:06:17] It's take as much as you can, learn as much as you can so that you can fucking beat them. That's how I look at it. So I get it and I, I want to validate it. And I'm not here to convince anyone to use it by any, any means. And the, um, reason I'm making this episode is because I had a conversation, a good conversation, with a good friend of mine, and I learned that she's using the free version of chat. And I was like, okay. [00:06:43] Uh, and then she asked me, like, if I honestly thought it was worth it to pay for chat. And I was like, you know, I get this question so much. I'm just gonna make this episode, like, I have very much intentionally put off making this Episode, because there is, you know, that little, like, spiel that I just went through there. Is that. That component to things, but that if, if we take it and just put it, like, objectively, this is what I want to discuss for the rest of the episode. Like, objectively, is it worth it? And I will say, you know, this is whether or not it's worth it to me and outline some of these. These factors. So right off the bat, I started paying for chat GPT very early in, like, very early 2024. So it wasn't the earliest by any means, because this came out in 2022. Um, but I honestly don't remember what it was like before then. [00:07:28] I don't remember what it was like because the machine, it wasn't that. It wasn't as good. You know, that, uh, when we went to GPT4, that was like a big change. And that is why I. I paid largely, if I can, if I'm gonna guess, like, oh, like there was a difference. Um, but I don't remember it was like, before. So I can't base it off and be like, hey, I wasn't paying then I did pay, and then it was a lot better. I don't fucking know about that. Right? [00:07:51] Uh, all I can say with full certainty is that right now, in this moment in time, for me, it is absolutely 100% worth it to pay $20 a month for this thing. Right? Worth it will always be a subjective thing that is largely dependent on what matters to you. And I've covered this a bunch on my other podcast, my show on the Mic, because we talk about it from the online business perspective, and people are like, is it worth for me to do X or to do Y or to try Y or to buy whatever it is, and it's subjective, I cannot say for you, I can only say for me. [00:08:26] What I can do is outline the things that, that make up this offer. Right? Worth it will always be a subjective thing, and that is largely dependent on what matters to you. So all I can do is list the things that it has, the components, what it does, and then you decide, does that matter to me? Do I care about it? Right. So that is what I'm going to do here. I, uh, I'm going to keep it as objective as possible, and I'm going to outline the differences between the free tier and the plus tier. [00:08:56] All right? The free tier is obviously free. [00:08:59] The next level up would be the plus tier. That's $20 a month. And then they do have a pro tier, which is 20. Excuse me, 200amonth immediately. No, I can already tell you it's not worth it. Right. M. My friend, uh, K did a trial. [00:09:15] A trial of it, or I don't say a trial because it wasn't free. He tried it for a bit and he wrote about it and I was absolutely not convinced it was worth it. And kind of his use case was like, I'm going to pay this much that's going to force me to use it and learn. And I don't even think he's still doing that. Um, one of the things that you're going to find is that as you, as you slash, if you get more into using LLMs and really into doing all the things, you will probably have multiple models. You will not just use one, you'll have your daily driver and then you'll have ones that you use for other things. [00:09:46] So I use, uh, ChatGPT for everything. I have access to Gemini Pro, which I haven't really leaned into, but I do have access to it because of Google Workspaces. [00:09:57] I will likely start paying for Claude for their coding component of things. Cause I've gotten really, really into that. And so now, um, I pay for a, a, an AI, um, a coding assistant. [00:10:08] Basically it's called Cursor and you can use different models through that. Um, but I pay 20amonth for that. For now we'll see if I'll pay more for that. [00:10:17] Um, so you'll, you'll see if you really get into that stuff, you'll start paying for multiple, you know, different, different models. Um, but 200amonth for one, that's going to be a no for me. Right. And K's research, that did not convince me either. [00:10:30] Um, so we are, and I guess it's worth saying that there is a 25amonth model that's for business. I don't really know what that is. [00:10:36] Um, I'm guessing it's like if you have multiple people, something like that. But we're talking about, for this episode, the free model and comparing it to the plus tier, or I should say the free tier and comparing it to the plus tier, which is $20 a month. So the free tier gets you limited access to reasoning, limited messages and uploads, limited and slower image generation, limited deep research, limited memory and uh, context projects. And that's it. And I pulled this right from OpenAI's website. [00:11:08] The plus tier, which is $20 a month, gets you everything in free and advanced reasoning with GPT 5.2 thinking that's their wow, the mic. Sorry about that. That's their newest model. [00:11:22] Expanded messaging and uploads. Expanded and faster image generation. Expanded deep research and agent mode. Expanded memory and context projects, tasks and custom GPTs. Limited access to Sora One video generation and Codex Agent. [00:11:40] What all that actually means and what actually matters to you, in my opinion, based on what I'm guessing you're using this for, uh, the things that. The plate, the paid tier. I almost said the plate because that's plus and paid. The paid tier. The plus tier has. That would actually matter to you, I think would be four things. Right. Versus access to better models. Right. This is especially helpful for more complex or research oriented queries that some of you may have. [00:12:06] Second thing, expanded messaging and uploads. Throttle me not right. According to Chad GPT, uh, the ChatGPT you're in review. [00:12:16] Did you folks do that? Right? They're trying to be like Spotify, of course, uh, just trying to stay relevant. But either way, according to Chat, my Chat GPT year in review, I am a top 1% user, which I'm not surprised. Man, I talk to this thing all the time. [00:12:27] That alone makes it worth it to me to pay the $20 a month. When I was playing around with Gemini a few weeks ago, I actually hit the cap within I don't know, like an hour or two of when I first started using it. And I was like, well, I guess I'm done. Um, but that's actually how I discovered that if you have a Google workspace, you have access to the Pro model which has the extended, the extended limits. But I use it a lot, right. I work with. When I was, you know, practicing or playing around with Gemini, I was doing it for coding. And when you're doing anything with coding and like I was coding a web page like that burns through tokens. Like there's this very big long outputs. Uh, it's not like a very simple, quick little thing. So I need, I need the expanded limits. [00:13:09] I am not trying to deal with usage caps. I believe there might be some sort of workaround, but you still have to like wait and ask. How long? I don't know. You can ask in the beginning maybe like how much you've. I don't, I don't know. When we were on the webinar I ran the other week a few weeks ago, one of the people on there, maybe it was Danielle, Um, that person said, you know, here's the workaround and you can ask. And I was like, oh, that's super helpful. I don't remember it because I, I pay for it. So I, I wasn't. I didn't like. I didn't like, log that into my memory. [00:13:39] Um, so something to be, you know, take that for what it's worth. [00:13:43] I am not sure of what the limit is, but I have yet to hit it when I'm talking to it. It has yet to been like, we're doing too much, we have to stop. Come back tomorrow. Um, however, a friend of mine, Beth, she did text and reached out and said that she got throttled. Um, but it was for image generation. [00:14:01] But I really don't do much of that with chat at all. So I don't think I'd ever hit that. But if you're trying to use it for that, that's a real thing. [00:14:08] Actually, I didn't write this in my notes, but this, this is a good point. Chad is like, not good at images. Like, it's not like, it's just not good at that. But Gemini, their Nano Banana model is. So this is where we start to see, like, how are you using this thing? Maybe it makes sense to use a different model, uh, a completely different LLM, uh, for the task that you have. Right? Okay. So that was two things that I think make sense for you or that you might care about, which is access to access better models and then expanded messaging and uploads. The next one, expanded memory and context memory for the plus tier, that paid tier, it's stronger, it's deeper, it gives, uh, rather, it keeps more context for longer. It uses a broader set of safe details and that. That's going to influence the answers that it gives you, right? The responses it gives. You can feel more personalized, more consistent across sessions. But m. More than anything, it remembers stuff better. Like, we can just say that and be like, okay, that's. That is something that's important. Like, think about working with an assistant or anyone ever. You're like, fucking remember, uh, the best example. Or maybe just in my mind, one of the best examples. When you go to get you out to eat and you have that. That waiter that like, is trying to be cool and like kneels down next to the table, never standing, kneels down and takes your order, doesn't write it down. And you're like, do you remember? Like, are you gonna. Are you gonna up? Because I did not want any seeds on that. I personally do not like seeds. So please make sure that there's no poppy seeds. You didn't write it down. And now I'm nervous. So, yeah, it's Great if they do remember it but like they're nervous. [00:15:40] So with these models having it remember stuff, that's super helpful. I know that uh, any of you listening to this, you've yelled at chat gbt. I've been like I just said this. Don't you remember? We were just talking about this before. [00:15:52] It would be more helpful if it remember things so you get better memory with the pay tier. Okay. M lastly would be projects, tasks and custom GPT. So it does say on that like little home, the little pay, the uh, what is it called the pricing sheet. It does say that projects are available on the free tier but you are limited to five file uploads and you don't have as good of memory. With the plus tier you have better memory cuz that's part of that tier and you can upload up to 25 pile. [00:16:23] Wow, 25 files per project which we know we have to understand can absolutely, you know absolutely and ultimately improve the quality and the complexity of the project. You get better outputs, it'll do better things. [00:16:37] So that to me worth it. [00:16:40] Uh, tasks. Tasks are apparently only available on the plus year. I have spoken out about tasks in the past episode. Tasks is basically where you have chat do something for you. I uh, can look things up and then it reports back to you like on a schedule. So I personally I've had it look for Nest cam sales. I had it look for dewalt battery sales uh which it actually found some and I used them. I was like this is good, I want to use this sale. That's great. Um, I have it look for SSD sales. [00:17:06] Um, nothing. Didn't find any good things get any good things there. But you define the task and chat runs independently uh, on whatever schedule you set and then it sends you an email. It sends an email to whatever you email you use to sign up for for Ah, ChatGPT sends an email like it's fucking dope. Is it like worth it to pay $20? No, but it's a cool feature. If you're already paying $20 you're like all right, cool, I'll use that. [00:17:27] Uh, and then lastly custom GPTs. I am a big fan of these. Like obviously my favorite feature is projects and so to me I can kind of like gloss over that. But to me making sure that we're optimizing that is worth the $20. [00:17:42] Um, but custom GPT is a big fan and for those that you don't know, custom GPTs are basically a um, dope ass way to clone yourself and Then give other folks access to it. You can quote, unquote, train the GPT and then give them a link. People link to that GPT and it'll can. They can ask it questions and it will give answers as if it's you because you trained it on the material and how you want it to respond. Like, I really, really like them for that use case. And I am thinking about setting up a service where I will make custom GPTs for people. Um, because I like doing it and I'm good at it. So if that's interesting to you and you're like, hey, maybe I'd want you to make one for me, reach out, send me a text. 310-737-2345. Shoot me an email. If you must, shoot me an email. Uh, easiest one is probably maestro, chatgpt, curious.com or [email protected] literally anything. I'll find it. Um, or you can send me a text. Uh, excuse me, send me a DM at the movement Maestro. [00:18:43] Um, but if you're interested, like I am, I'm definitely thinking about offering this as a service because I really like it. [00:18:50] But I covered this in episode 11, like, what custom GPTs are. So I will link that, uh, in the show notes. But those are the, in my opinion, the features that I think that you folks listening to, listening to this would actually care about. Right? And so when we look at those categories, access to better model, basically unlimited messaging, better memory and access to projects, tasks, and custom GPTs. It is 11 billion percent worth it for me to pay. [00:19:21] The question is, do you care about any of those things? Right? If no, then it's not worth it for you to pay the super casual user that's asking it for dinner recipe every now and then and, you know, a health question every now and then. It's probably not worth it to pay. [00:19:38] Flip side, if you're listening to this podcast, it's honestly probably worth it. Like the fact you're listening to podcast about ChatGPT, like, you're probably doing some shit with it and it's probably worth it. Um, I actually asked in one of the very early episodes to let me know if you were using the paid tier or of chat. And I think maybe one to two people got back to me. I feel like Kate and Ally got back to me and I was like, y' all are the best. Um, but I would love to know, are you paying for chat? And if you got back to me, I don't remember. I'm so sorry. I I really am, but are you paying for Chad? I genuinely want to know. No judgment. And I'm not gonna try and convince you to pay. Like, I just want to know. [00:20:15] Uh, I can think of two people off the top of my head who I know listen to this podcast, and they've recently started paying, and both have told me that for them it has been worth it and it has been better, and they're getting better responses with the paid tier. Um, but I was honestly surprised that these two people, when they told me they weren't paying, I was like, what? [00:20:38] Oh, mainly because I'm like, I know how you use it, or I thought I knew how you use it. And I. [00:20:43] They could definitely benefit from the better memory and the better projects. And I was wondering how they were. We're not hitting the chat limits. And they're like, oh, no, we are. And I was like, I could never. Like, what? [00:20:54] Um, but they were making it work. And again, I am not here to tell anyone, and I will not tell anyone that they should be paying for chat. Immediately. No. Immediately. No. Right. If you're using it for free and it's serving you well, keep on keeping on. I've never really been one of the people, you know, type person that's like, got a lot of FOMO or is like, am I missing something? Like, that's not me. To me, you know, if that's you and you're wondering, am I missing something? Just spend the $20 and see for yourself and answer the question. Scratch the itch. If you pay and you get chat, you know, the plus chatgpt plus, and you don't miss any difference, just downgrade. And it's like, all right, pay $20 and done. [00:21:34] Right. Uh, I will say the majority of people using ChatGPT are on the free tier. And honestly, I do not know what OpenAI is going to do about this. Not that they need to do something about it, but they definitely aren't making any money from the users. And I'm not sure how long they'll be able to play the, you know, we have the most users card and continue to get the funding they're getting. Like, they're either going to have to throw ads in front of us or, uh. I mean, I think that becomes the main way of monetizing it, is that they'll throw ads and then you could pay to not have ads. Like is my guess. [00:22:12] But I don't know. I don't know what they're going to do. I know that, you know, obviously they have Their own browser with Atlas and it would make it easier with that. I don't know. I don't know. But I can't see that it's staying free forever and being, you know, as good as it is, um, without them doing something to change. [00:22:29] Might, um, they roll out a, an even cheaper tier like they have in, I think it's called like Chat GPT Go or something. I don't know. They had this in like 80 something countries last I had checked. Might they roll that out? Maybe, I don't know. But also, I don't want this to become an economics episode, even though I love talking about this stuff. So, uh, I'm gonna leave it at that. But I will say that a few weeks ago, following the release of Gemini 3 Siam, Altman declared a code red, which is basically short for oh shit, they've caught up, we gotta do something. [00:23:01] Uh, and so he instructed his peoples, he instructed the company to focus on memory and personalization. Right. Uh, they're trying to stay relevant, they're trying to stand out. And that's kind of like all you can do when you're going to the general public, you know, Claude Anthropic. They're smart, they're really looking at, they focus on enterprise and they're really doubling down on coding. That's what they care about. JGBT is trying to be the jack of all trades, which I have told you folks a million times, or if you listen to my other podcast, I've told you a million times, niche down, baby, niche down. Uh, but will same, right? That's what they've. Is all they can kind of do at this point. Focus on memory, focus on personalization, try to get people to stay, uh, so they can continue to say that we have the most users. Um, so all that being said, maybe hold on to that free tier and see what gets thrown your way with the updates that roll, you know, that roll out. We're already on version 5.2. ChatGPT5 just rolled out. I'm already on 5.2. They've been making changes real quick. Uh, and there are some new features in the personalization section already. So maybe it becomes really good in that free tier and you don't have to upgrade. Right, but circling back to the original question, is it worth it to pay for ChatGPT? It is 100% worth it to me, but the answer to that question is 100% subjective and the ball is fully in your accord. All right, last things last. How I use Chat GPT this week. Each Week, if you don't know, I include a section where I briefly discuss how I use ChatGPT that week. And currently folks, I am using chat big time. God bless. Not having the limits on it. I'm using ChatGPT big time to learn about computer science and coding. Uh, I actually built a website for my brother. [00:24:46] I built websites before using WordPress. [00:24:50] This I built from scratch. Like it's all coding and Cursor did it for me. And I was asking ChatGPT about the different components of things and when I had to debug things and understanding the difference or the relationship between HTML, CSS, JavaScript, React. Next JS, uh, PHP files, which is not how I did this. PHP files, if you're familiar, that's, that's a WordPress thing. Um, I was just trying to learn all the things and I, that is my task for the next year at least. Um, but I use chatgpt a ton. A ton, a ton, a ton. Um, and just circling back, built a website for my brother. We'll see if he uses it, but I needed the practice anyway. Um, but I cannot express how amazing I think chat, GPT and all LLMs are for learning. They never get annoyed with you, uh, ever. [00:25:40] You can ask them literally as many questions as you want. You can ask them to explain things as many times as you want, as many different ways. You can always just be like, hey, wait, so here's what I'm saying, here's what I think. [00:25:50] You can just use natural language. You can talk with it, right? I, I use this thing called Whisper Flow a lot now. [00:25:58] Um, my friend Kay put me onto it and I'm like, I love this thing. Just, it's like it's an AI mediated, um, or AI assisted, um, what is that? What I call it Voice note thing. I don't know. You talk and it transcribes. Um, I'm losing my words, but I use it a ton. And so, you know, I, I will just speak in that way and just use natural language and chat will respond and I can go back and forth as much as I want. You can ask Alex. I've been going back for the ton. I've been just in my offices working for hours and hours and learning for hours and hours. And I think it's amazing. I think that this technology is absolutely amazing. I think that what it can do for just democratizing so much. So the reason I brought the website is that it's free, right? I built it using uh, a, uh, framework called Next js. That's free. It's a free framework and they have a free course on their website about Next and React. React is like a JavaScript library, but if you want to learn about it, they have free courses on the website, so that's free. And then I deployed it using a, um, system. I'll call it called Vercell. And it's all free. [00:27:11] Like, when else can you be like, I had an idea for a website and I built it and deployed it for free. And there's no. There's no cost. The only time that you're going to incur a cost would be if I'm trying to take this thing and I want like a custom domain, so you have to pay for that. But, you know, you go to namecheap and get a domain for like 12 a year. This is amazing to me. Like, yes, I will say the thing that I ended up paying for was Cursor, because I was using it a lot to, um, write the. I had questions about it making it Cursor makes the code. And so it has an AI agent and you can basically use any of the major models and you just have like a limited number. And so I started on the free tier and I did hit it towards the end. And so I just upgraded to $20 a month. [00:27:57] So you could do it for one month and then just be done with it. But, like, there's a website now that lives, that exists, and it's free. Like, I don't know if you folks understand that. You can conceptualize that. That is a really big deal, in my opinion, for leveling the playing field for people or nonprofits, like, where they just. Hosting costs add up. And like, having these just like, very big, uh, we'll call them CMEs. Like these very big, like Squarespace and. And WordPress. [00:28:26] Right? WordPress can be cheaper depending on how you build it. But if you do a custom, if you buy themes for it, like, that can be expensive. A couple hundred dollars a year. I just bought one for. For the Curious website and I paid for Lifetime and It was like 500 bucks. [00:28:42] This thing is free. Like, this is amazing to me. Yes, you need tech tenacity, but like, uh, you can use natural language and just be like, how do I do this? I want to build a website for free. How can I do that? And it will tell you, and then it will generate code. One of the arguments. And like, I'll probably do another episode about this because I see this episode is getting long. But, like, there's a lot of talk right now a Lot of people on the code that AI makes. And, like, obviously it can sometimes give you too much code. And the more code you have, the more surface area, and that's the more surface area for bugs. But, like, when you're just making a basic website, static website, like, it's not a big of a deal. Like, uh, this is. And this is amazing to me. It also feels kind of cool and like hackery because you work. You kind of working in terminal. In the terminal for some of it. You can have like the back black background if you want for things. And, like, a lot of code is generated. Like my eyes. I'm like, am I gonna be okay with this? Uh, but I am amazed and just incredibly impressed by this technology. And like I've said before, one of the reasons I stay so stoked on it is what I think it can do, the opportunity that it can. That it can open up. [00:29:47] I, like, I. I'm just like, it's amazing to me. Like, you don't have to be a millionaire. You don't have to be a hundred thousandaire, a thousandaire to succeed or to be able to do these things and build these things. Like, that is amazing to me. And I. And I, I do. I want people to take advantage of it. So that's how I used it, um, this week. And that is all for today. Got a little riled up there. Uh, hopefully you found this episode helpful. If you did, how about maybe consider sharing it with someone who has asked you if it's worth it to pay for Chad GPT. We'll make this meta. [00:30:26] Don't forget I do have a companion newsletter, the Curious Companion, that drops every Thursday. That is basically the podcast episode in text format. Uh, so if you prefer to read or if you just want to. Oh, wow. Cannot speak or just want a written record, join the newsletter fam. You can head to chatgpt curious.com newsletter or check out the link in the show notes. [00:30:55] As always, endlessly, endlessly, One more time. Endlessly appreciative for every single one of you. Happy New Year, Happy birthday to me. And until we chat again next Thursday, stay curious.